Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
Although, we anticipate interest rate volatility to remain moderately elevated in the near-term, we believe current valuations on production coupon agency mortgages largely priced in this risk, represent attractive investment opportunities with current gross ROEs in the mid to high teens
Despite significant tightening of spreads in the asset class in the fourth quarter, we believe the Agency RMBS valuations remain attractive for long-term investors, given our expectations for the potential reduction in interest rate volatility over the course of 2024 as easing monetary policy likely results and a steeper yield curve
Overall, our expected interest rate margin remains very attractive at just over 5%, which includes the benefit of our remaining legacy swap portfolio
Earnings available for distribution for the period benefited from attractive interest rate -- interest income on our target assets, favorable funding and low-cost pay-fixed swaps
Further, our liquidity position remains robust
Despite further runoff of the Federal Reserve's balance sheet during the quarter, the decline in interest rate volatility and expectations for the easing of monetary policy, led to an improvement in domestic bank holdings of agency mortgages for the first time in nearly two years
Positively, we retain much of the benefit of our low-cost pay-fixed swaps with an attractive weighted average coupon on our hedging portfolio of 1.1%, and weighted average maturity at 6.6 years
Although, we anticipate limited near-term price depreciation in our credit and Agency IO investments, we believe these assets provide attractive yields for unlevered holdings
As a result, we believe IVR is well-positioned to navigate future mortgage market volatility and selectively capitalize on historically wide Agency RMBS spreads, which provides the supportive back drop for long term investment
So, from that perspective, it's been well-supported
The market sentiment improved, bolstered by incoming data supporting a soft landing narrative and market expectations for a quicker pace of interest rate cuts by the Federal Reserve, we return to our target range
Our preference for higher coupon specified pool should perform well in that environment
While evolving expectations around the timing of changes in monetary policy may bring challenges in the coming months, we believe that a potential reduction in interest rate volatility combined with compelling valuations and favorable funding conditions will support an attractive investment environment for agency mortgages in 2024
We remain focused and more attractively priced higher coupons, which are largely insulated from direct exposure to assets held by commercial banks and on the Federal Reserve's balance sheet
In addition, specified pool payoffs improved as interest rates fell as illustrated in the chart on the top right
We have seen some encouraging signs from them over the last few months, and they've at least stopped running off their portfolio as significantly as they had been
As far as our duration gap goes, we're still just modestly positive, but very slight
Despite notable underperformance to start the quarter, production coupon agency mortgages, mortgage valuations rebounded into year-end as interest rates and interest rate volatility declined
I think -- specified pools as I mentioned, the payouts still improve in the fourth quarter, given what we saw happen in the rates market
We focused our specified pool allocation on prepayment characteristics that are expected to perform well in both premium and discount environments and modestly improved the quality of our specified pool holdings by increasing our allocation to the lower loan balance stories
Valuations rebounded, however, as the disinflationary trend persisted despite the notable strength in the economy, resulting in a pivot for expectations of monetary policy from further tightening, potential easing in the first half of 2024
Despite the volatility we experienced during the quarter, our book value per common share ending the quarter at $10, representing an increase of 0.7% from September 30th
We do have the ability to do that if we -- if the market -- if volatility declines and we see improvement and valuations
And given our continued holdings in 4s to 5.5s that are still at decent discounts, we certainly have a fair amount of protection from that perspective as well
Yield on our HC RMBS portfolio increased approximately 20 basis points to 5.3%, while the pay rate on our interest rate swaps increased 30 basis points to 1.1%
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Our credit investments remain high quality with 68% rated AA or higher
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Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
To conclude our prepared remarks, the fourth quarter of 2023 began another very challenging quarter for Agency RMBS investors, as uncertainty regarding the path of monetary policy led to another sharp increase in interest rate volatility
As shown in the lower right chart, the dollar roll market for TBA securities remained unattractive as more recent issuance with higher loan balances have a worse prepayment profile, and the lack of consistent bank demand has negatively impacted technicals
For the quarter, EAD per common share was $0.95 compared to $1.51 for the third quarter, reflecting declines in interest income on investments and interest rate swaps in connection with our reduction in leverage and adjustments to our swap portfolio
Over the first six weeks of 2024, mortgage valuations have been challenged with lower coupons underperforming higher coupons
These changes resulted in a modest increase in the weighted average coupon on our pay-fixed swaps, which negatively impacted earnings available for distribution
As of February 16th, our book value per common share is down moderately estimated to be between $9.50 and $9.88
treasury yields fell sharply across the yield curve in a parallel fashion during the fourth quarter
The heightened volatility drove notable underperformance in agency mortgages as investors reduced exposure to the asset class
Our portfolio decreased by 7% quarter-over-quarter as the sharp increase in interest rate volatility in October warranted a reduction in risk
I think we still -- certainly, there's still some uncertainty about the timing of Fed policy, and we would expect there continue to be some great ball around that until that kind of comes to fruition
So, you'd expect some softening in payouts so we've seen that
Yields on maturities from two years to 30 years declined between 65 and 80 basis points, and the disinflationary trend and economic data persisted, while estimates of future treasury funding needs declined
We still think that the TBA market will continue to have issues and that implied financing will continue to be higher there than it is in specified pool
And as far as capital structure, we've been buying back preferreds in the open market, it's been a very slow process just given the amount of activity in those issues out there
The modest decline from $78 million at the end of the third quarter to $75 million this quarter primarily due to paydowns and a modest decline in the weighted average dollar price, given the rally in interest rates during the quarter
Our credit allocation declined during the quarter to $19 million as a result of paydowns
It looks like the net swap portfolio declined by more than the MBS portfolio did in the quarter
The sharp rally that we saw in interest rates during the fourth quarter did shorten our mortgage investments
And until that starts to improve, it's hard to envision the dollar roll market improving all that much because, quite frankly, the other aspect of that is the convexity profile of the deliverables
By the end of the fourth quarter, pricing in the Fed Funds futures market reflected expectations for a 25 basis point cut in the target rate in the first quarter of 2024 and nearly seven cuts in total by the end of January 2025
   

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