Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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But the fundamentals of the business appear to be very strong from our perspective
So when you model it out, first of all the benefit to people at risk of getting HIV is incredible and the commercial opportunity for us and our shareholders is really exciting
And the clinical data is incredibly strong
The last two years, you've seen an acceleration -- a reacceleration in base business growth from Gilead, where we grew 7% and 8%, respectively for the year, driven both by our market-leading world-leading HIV business and virology business more broadly as well as our emerging oncology business, which includes cell therapy and Trodelvy an antibody drug conjugate for various forms of solid tumors
So, we're making progress and absolutely confident that both on the manufacturing side and the commercial side, we're well-prepared for early approval
So the market demand was very strong, both in the US and other markets
We're really excited about it
And we're really excited about it
So we're -- it's an exciting new chapter for Gilead from our perspective
So the business remains strong
We have an incredible commercial organization
As you know that the earlier data that's been shared is really exciting both in terms of the efficacy profile as well as the safety profile
So with every six-month subcutaneous injection you would expect to see a significant improvement in the real world over patients who are on the oral pills just not because the medicine is more effective
So, we're really excited
So, the interesting thing with manufacturing is we're getting better and more efficient at it every year
And to put it in context, we see it as a very large growth opportunity
And when you look at the incredible data from cell therapy we're comfortable and confident that you're going to see penetration of cell therapy
I mean, I think you have to frame it with the cell therapy business overall is really healthy and growing
And Trodelvy, our antibody drug conjugate that targets Trop-2 is a $1 billion product and also growing double digits
Remember, the cell therapies, we have data that shows an incredible overall survival benefit for patients both at later lines, but also in second-line DLBCL, if you look at the ZUMA-7 study, I mean this is like groundbreaking data in terms of the benefit for patients
We have the world's leading COVID antiviral for hospitalized patients where the sales are still very strong, but they fluctuate as you'd expect from time to time
I think appropriately it's probably a good thing for us and for patients
The -- and remember, again, as I said earlier, both Trodelvy and cell therapy have very long durability in our models in terms of the difficulty of biosimilars, the IP protection that we have around them these can drive value and growth for many, many years to come
To round out cell therapy, I want to talk about on either cell Arcellx, a great deal in my opinion the data at ASH looked really good
We think we have a really unique TROP2 product
It's a -- the Kite team has done an incredible job on kind of both the commercial model and the commercial logistics as well as manufacturing
We are clearly the world's leader in cell therapy
Both of the cell therapy franchise just like our HIV business are unique in that they have a very long product life cycle
That market has been developing over the last 10 years, as we'll talk about later we believe is poised for complete evolution over the next decade with the launch of an every six-month sub cutaneous product called lenacapavir by the end of next year
We still believe that we're going to get an attractive return for investors
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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I mean it really is a huge problem
But cell therapy Q4 did experience some weakness
During Q4, you guys experienced some weakness in HIV
And then the other issue is that with the BCMA cell therapies coming on some of the hospitals don't have enough transplant beds that will resolve it
In the United States, there are some temporary headwinds that we've highlighted, that are very different than Europe
I don't -- I would -- we didn't experience weakness in HIV
The challenge is finding a partner agent for it
So when we take the sales in the quarter and you apply the net price across all of the sales, it resulted in a lower realized net price for the quarter
It also had other issues related to it from our perspective
That market is still in its infancy
What we saw was actually sales and it's a little -- HIV market is a little more complicated
There was one drug that was approved a handful of years ago that actually makes itch much worse
The challenge is that people are at risk of getting HIV don't tend to take the pills every day
60% is still not too bad
This year we just made the announcement that our turnaround time in the United States and agreement with the FDA has been reduced from 16 days to 14 days
For prevention, it's much less than that
It's unpredictable when these large bulk orders will come in
This is not unusual in our HIV business
   

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