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| I think it's good for us, and it's good for our, when ours comes online, too, all of our stations in California are about almost 150 |
| So I think that that month delay is a bullish sign for the low-carbon fuel standard and for credit pricing |
| Despite these external factors, the fundamentals of our business remain strong, and so does our conviction in our strategy |
| We're very proud of it |
| And now I happen to feel pretty good about the fact that we have sounded that alarm at the highest levels of government and at carb, and I'm told that they hear us now and that we're going to be working to reduce that time |
| We are also optimistic |
| And there is certainly a good chance that they can produce EBITDA |
| So that puts us in a very nice position |
| I'm handicapping the carb outcomes as positive for the industry |
| As you can see, the fueling distribution business continues its financial improvement and you see the effects of the dairy RNG joint ventures being in ramp-up mode |
| We're pleased with the strong contributions of our vehicle fueling margins and glad that we're able to get some financial relief for our Texas LNG plant |
| We saw improved mix in our fuel gallons with more vehicles fueling and helping increase fuel margins |
| We believe this demonstrates the acceptance of these programs as a good way to address emissions issues that continue to expand |
| There are positive signs that other important states in the Midwest and Northeast could soon follow |
| Let me just close by repeating we are very optimistic that over the next 12 to 24 months, you will see much of the strategy that we laid out several years ago fall into place, with the investments beginning to show the fruits of our labor |
| Our existing station footprint is well-positioned to support additional volumes from new customers |
| To meet our full-year expectations, we had to have a solid fourth quarter, which we did |
| The RNG industry recently notched a significant victory with New Mexico, passing legislation to establish a low-carbons fuel program |
| We thought the step up in RIN revenue was pretty encouraging in Q4 |
| And the fifth pillar of our business strategy is the fact that we have a strong balance sheet to fund our continued growth in both stations and RNG projects |
| You have really good data |
| The feedback from the fleets operating the test units of this engine has been very positive |
| We are encouraged |
| So that's why we're pretty bullish on the need for bringing low CI into the state, because we have a home for it |
| I think 2024 and 2025 will be very exciting years at Clean Energy and set the stage for many good years thereafter |
| I think you made a very strong case, why it's slightly negative in the first half and then improved |
| The important thing is RNG, all over the United States, the program has gone very well |
| RNG is affordable, available today, and has the greatest positive impact of any form of renewable energy |
| Execute operationally and optimize revenue however possible |
| We have the right platform and the right partners to take on this challenge, and we are on the path to achieving improvements in project costs and timelines |
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| LCFS pricing, on the other hand, continued to be low along with some delays in expected low CR RNG [ph] supplies, so we actually lost some ground in the LCFS area in the fourth quarter |
| With five projects coming online at the beginning of this year, this ramp-up period will have a negative drag on our financials in 2024 until we can monetize the RNG produced with environmental credits |
| So, just as the market started to say, well, look, there's an oversupply of credits for the next two and a half years |
| On the PTC, I think all of us got a little scared about the IRA because the ITC was sort of bungled at treasury where they disallowed some of the cleanup equipment |
| We're estimating about $69 million in non-cash Amazon warrant charges for 2024, which reduces our GAAP revenue |
| By the way, I think it's important to note, it doesn't make these projects negative |
| New York's a difficult one, right? Negotiations there with the Governor's office as we speak |
| Of course, there's risk involved from both the amount of gas produced and when it's produced and the in-demand markets from a pricing standpoint mainly |
| So it's come down from last year |
| I know the people on this call are aware that the overall renewable energy sector has experienced market volatility in recent months |
| I know you said this in your prepared comments, but I'm still confused about why the spade Idaho dairy project would contribute about half of 2024 upstream losses if it's not completed |
| Okay, now taking a step back for some of the assumptions in our 2024 guidance, we're looking, our guidance contemplates RIN price staying around $3 level, noting that we've seen that kind of bounce above and below the mark recently with reason to be cautious here |
| Breakdown of adjusted EBITDA for 2024 is $76 million to $82 million from the fuel distribution business compared to $50 million in 2023 and a negative $14 million to negative $10 million from our dairy RNG equity method investments compared to a negative $6.7 million for 2023 |
| So that obviously has to get fixed and reduced, and there has to be some sort of compromise here where they allow us at least to true up and produce our gas because otherwise this is a real penalty |
| Although there were also incremental costs in SG&A during the fourth quarter from some new fueling station activities |
| That's why there's this drag with these projects that have come on, that will come on this year |
| Keeping in mind, our annual results were significantly impacted by the $10 million in net incremental costs we incurred back in the first quarter from the historic run-up in California gas costs in January of 2023 |
| The breakdown is $93 million to $87 million GAAP net loss from the fuel distribution business and $18 million to $14 million GAAP net losses from our dairy RNG equity method investments |
| As we bring more projects online, the glaring financial startup impact should be muted by projects operating at full financial capabilities |
| And I think the point there was really not wanting to have an impression that the five or the six projects that we'll have operating in ’24 have that kind of drag on it |
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