Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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This -- we had a really strong Q4
That's great execution and real progress towards our goal
We continue to make great progress toward our goal of a global peak revenue of $1 billion
So on the IRA, particularly next year when the max out-of-pocket shifts to $2,000, we think that will be an advantage for patients in terms of affordability
It was great to see such a strong Q4 and full-year 2023 for ORLADEYO
And if you have an oral alternative for a breakthrough attack, we think that's great
2023 was another impressive year for ORLADEYO starting with generating $326 million in revenue in just the third year of launch
The other key part of it is that we have a very differentiated product in a once-daily oral and that's something that patients and healthcare providers really want
The strong evidence from patients also continues to shape prescriber expectations and give them confidence
This is an exciting time for ORLADEYO, because after three full-years on the market, we are seeing a very consistent picture emerge from the building evidence
Real-world experience and the long-term clinical data are telling a very consistent story and how ORLADEYO can provide meaningful benefits to a variety of HAE patients
This real world evidence demonstrating the long term safety and effectiveness of ORLADEYO is exciting
So I think the company is in a great spot
These patients also reported meaningful long-term improvements in quality of life, treatment satisfaction, and an overall safety profile that is very reassuring for people living with this lifelong disease
Achieving independence from the capital markets, while we also continue to invest in further expanding our global reach for ORLADEYO and expanding our label with the pediatric indication, while also further advancing our exciting early stage pipeline puts the company in a very strong position moving forward
Not just the revenue performance, but the continued underlying strength in net new patient adds, giving us confidence of achieving between $380 million and [$400 million] (ph) in global ORLADEYO revenue this year on our path to peak sales of $1 billion
So 0.5 attack per month is doing very well
to equal about $200 million of the $1 billion in sales and what we see so far gives us confidence that we'll get there
And it's really because they've had experience and they're seeing it work extremely well in patients
Our team has been hearing the stories of ORLADEYO over the past three years, and these data further illustrate why it is such a favorable treatment option for people living with HAE
Third, we improved the percentage of paid therapy in the commercially insured part of the business from [7%] (ph) to 79%
What's most meaningful to people living with HAE is that they get the chance to live a normal life by minimizing their attack burden and experience meaningful improvements in their everyday quality of life, all while avoiding the unnecessary potential burdens of treatment
This drug works spectacularly well in certain patients
And the confidence in the docs is really high
Additionally, with revenue exceeding $350 million, it puts us into a tier whereby the incremental revenue will be more profitable as the blended royalty rate is reduced
So again, this is a very notable improvement and looks very similar to injectables in terms of attack rate control
And again, those patients did very well, achieving an attack rate of 0.5 at day 540
And so having that as a choice for patients, we think it's just another benefit
Of course, some patients do drop out, but this represents how well patients when they're doing well in ORLADEYO, they're doing really well and sticking on therapy
What is even more exciting is that the data we presented at Quad AI are just the start
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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The number one reason is perceived lack of efficacy
Jon Stonehouse To keep somebody in a study for two years is challenging certainly
So I think 7% or 8% drop from Q4 and probably mid-80s in revenue for Q1
And so it's not uncommon to see people not succeed and you see that in some of these results
The number two reason is adverse events, specifically gastrointestinal, which is not surprising given the product label and our clinical trial experience
And while it can be convenient for some I think that fear and fatigue of injections can be underestimated
The main reason for the dip in Q1 is the broader percentage of patients getting reauthorizations
I would just add, I think people underestimate the fear of injections that patients experience
Ex U.S., first of all, once we -- the biggest challenge or the biggest time factor is getting market access in an ex U.S
It doesn't seem to be worse than that, but it's not solved
Are there challenges, maybe ex U.S
For 1Q, yes, we expect similar seasonality with the first quarter revenue being down versus Q4
In some months, patients may not share what their attack rates are
These include about $5.4 million attributable to the R&D reorganization, including costs related to the reduction in force and the postponement of the expansion of the Discovery Center in Birmingham, Alabama
So the question is, it can't be efficacy, right? Because if you're controlled on our drug, then you can't do any better
What I'd say is it's not solved yet
This low and consistent rate of attacks on ORLADEYO meets patients' expectations, because they know from experience that perfect control is unlikely with any product
And remember, some patients don't do well in our drug
   

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