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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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We see this drug extremely well positioned in the obesity marketplace, especially fitting the segment of patients who need to get further reduction in their serum lipids, reduction in their liver fat content, both important risk factors for cardiovascular disease, but most importantly, achieving it safely
We're very pleased with it and the comments reading from patients and investigators is that you've got the drug out there
We feel that we're going to be able to generate a very robust response with surface antigen and other measures of HBV replication
We are excited about the continued advancement of our lead product candidate, pemvidutide, a GLP-1/glucagon dual receptor agonist, in development for both obesity and NASH
We've demonstrated in our Phase 1 studies that it's very safe and that it's able to significantly increase the T cell response to HBV antigens
And we think that's a very important differentiator
We think this sights feel and patients feel as well based on the reactions that this is going to be a very successful product
Pemvidutide may also provide the opportunity to initiate or established therapy without dose titration, which we believe may be a highly attractive option to primary care physicians as the obesity market grows beyond specialty clinical settings
That's something we're obviously taking a very, very good look at
Significant improvements are positive trends in cardiometabolic risk factors were observed
It is general to believe that an effective therapy for chronic hepatitis B will require both direct-acting antivirals and immunotherapy and we believe that HepT cell is highly differentiated and may provide a functional cure of chronic hepatitis B infection when combined with novel direct-acting antivirals
Importantly, weight loss will also be assessed as a key endpoint as we believe this will be an important differentiator with respect to the majority of NASH therapeutics in development
So we're obviously optimistic about that
Chronic hepatitis B continues to represent a serious unmet need in the United States and worldwide and represents a significant commercial opportunity
We also achieved significant reduction in serum ALT in MRI-based corrected T1 imaging, both important markers of NASH improvement
We're optimistic about the pending results and look forward to ongoing discussions with FDA about the design of our Phase 3 program, which we hope to commence with a partner in the second half of 2024
And with combination with the adjuvant that we are using IC31, which is preclinically looked very encouraging
It should also be pointed out that at the 24-week time point, the magnitude of LDL cholesterol reduction on pemvidutide treatment with several fall better than that achieved by semaglutide or tirzepatide in a similar population at the conclusion of their trials, but at 68 and 72 weeks, respectively
I would emphasize there's been a great deal of enthusiasm from not only patients, but also sites and in particular, Dr
This gives us confidence that the weight loss beyond the -- that weight loss beyond the mid-teens could be achieved, the subjects were to be treated for longer durations
So we think the safety profile, the good solid weight loss, the effects on serum and hepatic lipids, and especially in primary care, which we believe is going to dominate the obesity marketplace in the future, the convenience of not having a dose titration, at least at the 1.8-milligram dose
Given the compelling trade data on our Phase 1b trials, we expect to achieve significant rates of NASH resolution and fibrosis improvement and data readout, which is anticipated in Q1 2025
So that's really what we are executing to, we feel that with the data that we are expecting at 48-week read out that would give us the best opportunity to line up a partner to move forward into Phase 3
We appreciate the opportunity to share our results and outlook with you, and thank you for your continued interest
We believe that it is the action of the glucagon receptor agonism present in pemvidutide, but not in semaglutide or tirzepatide that leads to the improved effects on lipids and differentiates pemvidutide
The important reductions in lipid-based cardiovascular risk factors suggest that pemvidutide has the potential to achieve even greater reductions in cardiovascular risk than those observed in the recently completed select cardiovascular outcomes trial
And we felt that, that would represent a population that has received direct acting antivirals, has had the surface antigen reduced by the mechanisms that I referred to earlier and then created a better environment for the immunotherapeutic to work and boost the T-cell response
Obviously, there is a lot of opportunity to tweak the dosing any way we wish in order to get that profile down even better than it is right now
Fast Track Designation is designed to facilitate the development and expedite the review of new drugs intended to treat serious conditions and address unmet medical needs
So, Omari, we -- as we've said, we feel comfortable that we could achieve weight loss in the mid-teens, which as Dr
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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As you mentioned, there was a higher than we expected adverse event discontinuation rate at the 2.4 milligram dose
NASH is a growing public health concern, and there are currently two or two treatments
Net loss for the three months ended September 30, 2023, was $20.7 million or $0.39 net loss per share compared to a net loss of $23.5 million or $0.48 net loss per share for the third quarter of 2022
Now we'll continue to see weight loss, or would have continued to see weight loss beyond the 48 week time point
So if you recall, the weight loss achieved by tirzepatide and semaglutide at 48 weeks was less than it achieved at 48 weeks, at 72 weeks, or 68 and 72 weeks
And that also we'll continue to see weight loss beyond that
This may prove to be an important differentiator as cardiac effects may be -- may not be tolerated in a population with higher cardiovascular risk, such as elderly individuals or individuals with pre-existing cardiovascular disease
And so they're unlikely to mutate in response to the immune pressure that will be generated
Recall, the MOMENTUM interim data showed weight loss of 10.7% at the 2.4 milligram dose after only 24 weeks of treatment
Remember that at the 1.2 milligram and 1.8 milligram doses, the adverse event rates leading to discontinuation were low
For a discussion of some of the risks and factors that could affect the company's future results and operations, please see the risk factors and other cautionary statements contained in the company's filings with the SEC
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